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Post by ozymandias on Jun 22, 2015 15:43:50 GMT 10
The other night, I had a long chat on messenger with a mate of mine back home in Greece. He's a real gourmand and an artist when it comes to cooking and grilling. Much to my surprise he told me that BBQing is a new trend in Greece, became quite popular last couple of years. He has a Q 2200 and a Large Primo oval.
The conversation raised a question in my head. If you had the money to spend on a decent charcoal BBQ for your serious Queing would you go for one of the good Webers (Performer, etc) or one of the Kamados (Ovals, Green eggs etc?) You will be spending a crapload of money, so where does the best value lie?
Or perhaps we are talking about different systems and no real comparison can be made?
I hope this post sparks some scholarly discourse.....
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Post by smokey on Jun 22, 2015 16:34:03 GMT 10
Lots of variables to consider and not a single answer as I can see.
Personal preference is a biggie, Funds, Cooking style, Product loyalty, Product commercial interest,,,
If I could Id buy a $6000 Komodo Komado, A massive Lang Offset, A Yoder Pellet grill, The list is endless.
I might see value in that but in reality its just wants, The next bloke might see it as excess.
Then There is the little things in life, The joy of making stuff and getting results out of making do.
Good to see Greece is catching the bbq bug, Though I hope not at the expense of its native grilling customs.
Im assuming your refering to American style bbq?
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Post by Gus65 on Jun 22, 2015 16:37:07 GMT 10
I think the best choice is the BBQ that most serves your needs and the type of cooking you enjoy. It has to have the space for everything you want to cook at any one time, allow for cooks to be completed within the available time and be within reach of your budget. It's a really personal thing with some people and requires a lot of consideration when going out to part with hard earned cash for a device to cook in. Like car brands it can also trigger a lot of heated debate. That's not always healthy.  I can't comment on a lot of varieties because I've never used them and until I win the Lotto it doesn't look like I'll get to either.  I'm happy with the one's I've got and learn something new about how to use them regularly and that's why I do it. As this thread unfolds it will be interesting to see who likes what but we all need to remember the words at the top of the screen. Its all about the food. It can be done on a lot of different BBQ's and still taste very much the same. |
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Post by ozymandias on Jun 22, 2015 16:39:53 GMT 10
Not talking about the $6000 mark, but rather the $1.000-2.000 mark.
As of cooking/BBQ methods in my contry, next couple of days I will post a couple of posts presenting you some interest methods of cooking in my country. Hope that will be ok with you guys
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Post by chrisg on Jun 22, 2015 17:31:16 GMT 10
 More than alright Ozy, I think it was probably quite a while before you but I spent a LOT of years kicking around Europe, charter flying causes that, with excursions into Africa not uncommon. I grew up in the UK and have lived in France, served in Germany, spent a lot of time in Italy and contrary to many my birth country can have a cuisine to equal any of them but if anyone asks me where I enjoy food in Europe the most I do not hesitate, it's Greece It kind of bemuses me that you can find a jumbo-load of French, Italian, even English cookbooks, but the Greek end of my shelves, despite looking, is very thin As for the question it is one I sort of ask myself and Gus kind of nails it, it is the food that matters and most of these different tools will do a very similar job in the end. I had the most peripheral knowledge of Kamados until I started looking at these forums, saw them in Bali, that was about it. People love them and I understand but you do as noted enter into an interesting divide similar to boys and their toys aka cars I'm totally happy with a good if somewhat vintage Weber Kettle, for now, for my BBQ requirements, I can admire the many other ways, although Pellets I must admit stir the geek in me somewhat but in the main have no huge desire to have a swarm of BBQS on the back veranda... Well, I do want a WGA, and that BBQG Dragon price is calling me like a lure... We probably all need help, just how many Qs can satisfy the craving ? Actually, who has the most here? I'd expect Mick, me I have kinda three and one of those is a tired Hibachi  Cheers |
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Post by smokey on Jun 22, 2015 18:22:02 GMT 10
I Think The Captain might take that title Chris.
$6000 is in my dreams Ozy, Never going to happen. And Ill never have a lang offset, or a yoder
I make do in that department with a second hand big green egg off ebay for $350 plus about a hundred to replace parts.
Maybe I miss understood the topic?
These are the bbq,s I use;
Weber Summit Gold Gas 4 burner 2008-9 model I think
Green Mountain pellet grill
Big green Egg
Weber silver Kettle
Weber smokey mountain
Weber go anywere
And a few odds and sods like mini spits and stuff more directed at camp fire cooking.
So where does the best value lie ?
In my case, I bought new old runnout models, Got special deals, Bought second hand ect.
However I went for the best quality brands that were within my budget.
Value is also do they get used? I try to alternate to justify my barbecues but I have fun doing it so there is fun factor value there.
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Post by gatsby on Jun 23, 2015 6:33:13 GMT 10
I suppose I'm a little like Smokey.
While I've got a few they sort of grew from a learning curve.
I've never used a Weber of any type so am biased so I'd say a kamado, the normal priced one. I'd love a kamado kamado but will never be able to afford one
Saying that a weber kettle would be as good, so not really helpful.
My cue's
Z&B gas twin grill
GMG DB pellet
Royal Kamado
Hark Gas Smoker
Japanese Hibachi
Cyprus Grill
Charcoal BBQ ( Marsupio Piccolo INOX Barbecue)
Tandoori charcoal oven
Wood fired Pizza oven
I really only use the first 3, the others are more specials or a learning curve (the inox one)
Cheers
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Post by chrisg on Jun 23, 2015 8:29:43 GMT 10
Looks like Gatsby might be in the running and he hasn't even been seduced by Weber - yet I honestly cannot imagine that an increasing interest in BBQ in Greece could be anything but good, again it is the food, the Greeks are not going to throw out an enormous cuisine tradition, they are just expanding it with a wider choice of heat sources I'd expect It's a subject that it is very, very easy to get philosophical about, or become a boys thing of who has the most toys/spends the most money on them wins. I find it quite strange these days to walk into Bunnys or Masters and find just how huge the BBQ section has become, even stranger in KMart or Target or BigW. It really was not long ago that you'd have to hunt around to find a kettle, now between the megastores and the specialists you need to step carefully to not trip over one. I do suspect that it is a blip though, civilisation has one hell of a short attention span these days, in BBQ you well know, to our benefit, where the signs and portents lie, in the roadside collection discards and on Gumtree BTW Ozy, to partly answer your question, I had a look, again, at the Dragon at BBQG yesterday, I'm at the point of buying one and hiding it at a mate's place but he lives a little to close to where I'd be distracted by a Daniel Boone pellet grill... My resistance to the urge to have more BBQs is in need of some Jedi reinforcement - that or a frypan wielding wife However, cooking by fire in the end really doesn't need all these toys, fuel and ingenuity, men find ways to cook with those two Cheers |
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Post by 420kev on Jun 23, 2015 8:45:26 GMT 10
my weapons of choice have dropped quite a lot over the years.
had numerous weber kettles, a kamado, a weber GA.
but now all i need is the WSM ( can use like a weber kettle if need be ), the silly little gasser 200, and GORDY.
the mighty T machine has gone to the son-in-law.
so my choice would be the weber smoky mountain, 'cause you can do everything the one touch gold can, and it's got more real-estate.
kevin
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I'm happy with the one's I've got and learn something new about how to use them regularly and that's why I do it.
