aydee
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Post by aydee on Nov 17, 2014 16:52:12 GMT 10
I'm looking at the ProQ Cold Smoke Generator.
Any reports on this? Good? Bad? Indifferent?
My budget isn't massive. So buying all the fancy stuff is fantasy. But if I can get away with this fella and fabricate a housing for it, great (OR even just use my bbq with some fancy shelving bracket I'll build).
Although I could probably make an identical device (Got the skills and tools, just not the materials), I'm figuring, for the materials I'd have to buy + time invested, it probably isn't worth it. Just buy off the shelf.
Finally, is $60 (+/- $10) about the norm? Or is that RIP OFF! territory.
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Post by smokey on Nov 17, 2014 17:38:53 GMT 10
A couple of us have one and found they do work well. WHEN you find the right sawdust for it. The dust that works well seems to have a mix of fine to medium particles You get a small bag when you buy it so pay attention to its consistency. They also need some sort of bottom to top draft to keep it lit. A kettle works well. That price sounds about right, They are well tinned up. Forget the tea light starting method, The wax inverably puts a bad flavour in the box or smoke house. Use a jet butaine lighter instead.
They are great for cheese, Salmon, Nuts ect.
I don't have a TUBE type smoker but if they stay lit and don't make too much heat, Flavoured wood pellets are easy to get. I'd love to test out a tube smoker to see just what they can do. All pics I see of them are on hot BBQ's. If they can chug along by themselves they might be a good option.
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Post by chrisg on Nov 17, 2014 17:56:43 GMT 10
Or do a search around the site and see what Shayne's approach is I've been looking at the Smokai, seems the ideal approach but considerably more expensive. Cheers
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Post by Gus65 on Nov 17, 2014 18:14:24 GMT 10
I've got the ProQ cold smoke generator and after a couple of false starts with the wrong sawdust i am now using it heaps. Takes a little practice but that's the same for everything.
Have a look on you tube, there's videos of using a removals box as the smokehouse. A kettle will do ( done it) the important thing is the dust and the starting.
I use an Aldi blow torch I bought to make creme brûlée and blast it into the side to get it going and dust I bought from a seller online with some fruit wood chunks
If you get the ProQ, PM me for details of where I got it and what I bought.
I want a smokai one day but cant justify it at the moment.
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Post by smokey on Nov 17, 2014 18:53:52 GMT 10
The Smokia really needs a large smoke house. At least garden shed size. Say 1x2 metres or bigger. Thats something for down the track. The little smokers work great for home use and playing about
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Post by chrisg on Nov 17, 2014 19:46:36 GMT 10
I'm not really thinking tomorrow but the take I have on the Smokai is to just use it or, isn't there a local product that is similar? To feed smoke into a suitably tapped kettle that I'd probably pick up from Gumstreet and dedicate to the use. However that is not what aydee is looking at just now, he is looking to have something that lets him cold smoke some bacon, repeatedly by the sounds of it So from what I don't know about the ProQ, because everyone seems to talk about it to smoke cheese and salmon, is it going to fill his need for producing his own bacon? It is a very clever little device, no doubt about it, but it also seems to be a bit touchy, I don't think that would bother aydee much Cheers
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aydee
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Post by aydee on Nov 17, 2014 20:12:06 GMT 10
Got plenty of things to light sawdust. If I can light 'coked coal', sawdust is childs play. Butane. MAPP. And if worst comes worst, oxy-acetylene. The sawdust. Will burn. It.. will burn... I've got a bbq that would work reasonably well. But the discussion here has given me a few ideas.. I will likely go with this product.. It will likely fit in my 10g bbq easily (Little barrel smoker). IF nothing else, even if it's not a cold smoke, it'll do.. And I can fabricate something to make it smoke into the 10G bbq.. Get used to me. I love repurposing things. Does it do "X"? Not yet... Yet... AD
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Post by chrisg on Nov 17, 2014 20:16:24 GMT 10
You need to talk to Smoky about knives mate For what you want I'd only hang off and see if anyone here has done bacon with the thing. I can't think of a reason why it would not be suitable but worth some feedback, Smoky in particular has a deal of experience in the Italian way of making this stuff, air cured, but so do others Cheers
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Post by Gus65 on Nov 17, 2014 21:45:46 GMT 10
I've used the cold smoke generator for a double smoked bacon before. 6 hours of Apple dust cold smoked then a hot smoke the next day of plum wood until bacon was at temp.
Was very very good.
Cure #1 is essential if you're doing this though.
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Post by smokey on Nov 18, 2014 17:09:39 GMT 10
Yes, as Gus said, Sure can be used for an initial cold smoke. Definatly need a proper nitrite cure, Need it anyway to make pink bacon. Although I wouldn't doit at this time of year. It's too warm. Better to just hot smoke. It's still comes out great and probably should be your first go method as there is more to learn in the curing than the actual smoking/cooking. Shayne gets around it with a converted fridge however so it's not impossible. Ive tried ice and wet towels with mixed success. It helps but there is nothing better then the dead of winter. Ive a few hams to make fro X mas and they will be only hot smoked with wood chunks on the coals. If I add enough wood chunks and go slow enough taking it up to temp, it can turn out tasting double smoked anyway. Here is a ham (treat bacon the same) that is well and truly single smoked.
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aydee
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Post by aydee on Nov 18, 2014 22:08:49 GMT 10
Yeah. I've got "Cure#1". I've done bacon twice now. (Hot smoked). 1kg of pork belly each time(Not sure of weight after smoking.) Not ONCE has it lasted the weekend. The Saturday just gone, my wife made some pasta (Home made pasta) and some fresh pesto (With fresh basil and pine nuts and stuff). Tasted awesome with diced home-made bacon.
My wife now fully supports my 'smoking habit' (hehehe).
The biggest issue I get is that my 'smoker' consists of a small pile of 'smoking chips/dust' which I drop hot coals on, and every half hour or so, throw another fistful of chips/dust onto the coal. With occasional addition of a new chunk-a burning coal. (There's an Elvis song. Just a chunka chunka chunka burning coal). Technically charcoal. Not coal. The coal is reserved for forge use only.
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