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I really don't keep up with Apple OS' mate, it can turn into a "religious" war real fast in IT circles.

Personally I've no real problem with Apple products apart from premium pricing in a closed environment. Apple business practices are what keep me away from having much to do with them more than anything else. However those are of absolutely no concern to the average consumer, believe me they can be more than somewhat annoying to people working in IT.

It really depends with Apple just which market as well, the fan-boy craziness over iPhones simply completely bemuses me and it can tend to translate to the Tablet market as well. IT people just prefer the openness of Android in the main but I can relate to one IT person I know who is top to bottom Apple including his portable computers (Air at the moment is what I think he has.) They plain and simply just work with each other and for all he does with them that's fine but in my world I'd find it more confining than liberating.

Simply put it's an argument that has been going on in IT for a long, long time and has nothing to do with BBQ

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It's an almost religion thing but in my case in the opposite direction. I use NOTHING Apple and so while I wish I could help you, I really can't.

I used Apple 2's and Macs some back when I was in school but I've never personally owned one.

My current phone is Android based and my new phone which I'm going to be able to get for nothing when my contract runs out, two days from now is also Android based.

My new phone baby.

www.cnet.com/products/samsung-galaxy-s5/

Just to be clear I am NOT paying $200 for it. Come the first of the month I can get it for nothing with a new contract and so I just have to bide my time for a couple more days.

IT guys are one of the very reasons why Apple fanbois "reputation" exists, The amount of griping, whinging and carrying on that comes out of their mouths is ridiculous. They spend half their lives bagging them out for little reward.

No one asked them to buy one, use one, touch one, build one.........they do really ned to get over it.

Its about of plastic, metal and glass, but it drives them insane.....

I have both, they suit their purpose, I'm mature enough to see that.

Yes, that's the simple truth of the matter, horses for courses, although I don't totally agree with Percelq, the fanboy thing is very prevalent in Macland and very much fostered by Apple. You don't get queues around the block waiting to buy a new Android 'phone

What Apple did, and still do although since moving to Intel processors and a BSD based OS it's not as relevant, was to keep much tighter control over the software that ran on their operating system, including any versions from Microsoft. That makes it easier to make things more reliable but they took it too far by locking down the hardware as well.

In my daily working life which has been in IT for pretty much 30 years now I almost never see anything Apple, the odd iPad, that's about it. But if I do and it is u/s it is very, very unlikely I'll be able to fix it in situ, need to get it on the bench. That's very much not the case with most any brand of Wintel machine.

The other thing Apple just do not really understand is server-centric computing, their rare forays into designing servers has been embarrassing.

In the end though I don't much care what badge is on the machine, I've just never had a good reason to buy or specify Apple much.

I'd sort of question your assertion about reliability as well though Captain, year on year the Mac has never had much more than 5% of the global market, kinda skews the reliability statistics

It's always the way with competing technologies, the old, very old, VHS/Beta war was much the same. Sony was the dominant beta player, but also never took more than 5% of the market leading everyone to wonder why they persisted. I had to point out at a conference once that having 5% of a market pretty much to yourself is actually a very healthy place to be, every man and his dog squabbling over the other 95%, you sitting nice and profitable in your niche

In the end, content rules, Beta died because video libraries stopped having movies for it. There's a much, much larger software base for Windows than there is for Mac but if you, in business especially, have the software tools you need you really don't much care

And THAT was where Apple did shoot themselves in the foot - had they abandoned the Motorola CPU much earlier and gone to Intel as they are now, and dropped their proprietary OS earlier their market share would be much bigger. If someone wants to now they can dual boot a Mac on either the Apple's OS or Windows. If that had been the case back around Windows 98 the PC landscape would look very, very different.

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Indeed Phil, to all intent and purpose the Apple OS is extremely unlikely to crash, the Blue Screen of Death is almost always caused by a software or hardware conflict on a Windows machine. The latter less so with the essential disappearance of IRQs.

Viruses being absent in the Mac world is nothing magical, a few do exist, but the idiots who write them mostly attack the mass market.

"Server" is a term only, in a Peer to peer network, the Apple way, if a machine is network sharing files or a printer by definition it is a server.

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Should be mate, it's all held in the data base.

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